Andy Reid - Full Episode

Jeff Sterns  0:00  
When it 15 he bought his first collector's vehicle, a 68 Fiat 124 coupe and his second was a 66 330 GT two plus two purchased by stealing your college saving so if I

Unknown Speaker  0:14  
had a 912 in between my first Daytona cost under 100 grand,

Jeff Sterns  0:19  
so well respected Concord judge Hilton Head concor Radnor hunt Cincinnati, in Lime Rock vintage festival so

Unknown Speaker  0:28  
and grants and you know all of them I said 24 five as a big closed bid right big heavy hitter. For George in his son interview, I was in basically a job interview to buy a car. And they asked me questions of why like Bristol and what it was and what I did, and I dressed up for it because a friend of mine told me to make sure to dress properly to go to Bristol in Lyon six three liter BMW M 54 motor sounds fantastic. I hit the wall really hard. I bent this thing's better than I ever been a race car ever. Andy wants to race when your cars. He was great. Getting experience. I'm like, No, he's ever been in a racing school. I said, No. He's like, okay, we'll teach you and there was like, the chassis and the cab and the engine missing a fender and Darrell was in a corner on the car. There was one like one wheel on it. And the rear ends and the turn, you know, in the middle of the front stretch. I'm like, Okay, I get it. BMW 1200 gs, Ducati. multistrada 1100 s 73. BMW rs 75 slash five. And I've got a Oh to try and bonneval What if you had a concor for toy cars, judged by Concord judges, Bill Warner, Bill Schaeffler and mckeel are on my board of advisors, the right songs on the radio, even if we're late to where we're going in the car. You wait to the psalmist down, you don't turn it off. It's a it's a crime against nature.

Jeff Sterns  1:55  
Jeff Sterns connected through cars, if they're bigwigs we'll have him on the show. And yes, we'll talk about cars and everything else. Here he is now. Jeff Sterns Jeff Sterns connected through cars with a guy I'm delighted to have on today, Andy Reid, and I know he's gonna be a humble and you're gonna act like it's not a big deal to to have you on here from our prior conversations. But when we connected through some friends, I was like, Oh, my God, the show has arrived. Its Pinnacle. That sounds hysterical. So well. And you're like, yeah, I guess this is a bump show, like when they would have me as a guest. So it's like going, are you kidding me? Seriously. So I want to just look at my notes here. So Andy Reid is a certified sports car fanatic who travels the world to see what's crossing the auction block and see what deals are going out there. This is, this is just like, this is too good.

Unknown Speaker  3:00  
I didn't write it actually, some of that was written by my friend Scott Lear. So when I used to work for classic Motorsports, that whole intro is his, which I thought was really he made it really fun.

Jeff Sterns  3:09  
And he's been involved in the collector car lifestyle, since before he could drive. When it 15 he bought his first collector's vehicle, a 68. Fiat 124 coupe in a second was the 66 330 GT two plus two, purchased by stealing your college saving. So we're gonna, you know, matter of fact, I don't think I'm going to look at all of these notes. I think we're just the I think these are

Unknown Speaker  3:33  
second to half really, because I had a 912 in between, but that I bought for 2500 bucks, because that's what they cost the 1982. But the dying

Jeff Sterns  3:42  
12 was not a desirable car. I mean, that was a four cylinder 911. I mean, who wanted what he cared? Right? So for that kind of money? Well,

Unknown Speaker  3:51  
I mean, look, we could all talk about the cars that we could have had for nothing, made my first Daytona cost under 100 grand and I bought it and then in 2001, I mean, all kinds of crazy things would happen. first car book I ever bought is this book. And, and I bought it when I was 13. And this became my dream car. And in 2001 some things happened and I was able to buy one. And

Jeff Sterns  4:19  
when you said under 100,000 Actually, my brain clicked over to Dino because I can't even think of a sub 100,000 or 100,000 ish. Daytona ever. That was the mix now. Yeah, they're crazy. But that wasn't the that wasn't the money even in the era was.

Unknown Speaker  4:37  
Oh yeah, they were they were in not in 2001 you could get the funny thing is I bought an unrestored car. That was an original car and nobody wanted an original car back in a one. And that was covering. hysterical. I was making about 600 bucks to cover the Brian Redmond historic races. What was the called the brick then at Road, America. They had an auction there. And so I was covering the auction and helping to work the classic Motorsports booth. And I covered the auction in the OG in the parking lot. There was a Daytona and I said, Hey, you know, this is cool. You know, what do you want for it? He goes 100 grand. And I had driven up my beetle Turbo S because we work for grassroots Motorsports. I had one of the very first Beatle turbo assets. I just kind of wanted one. And he goes to that a Turbo S I go, Yeah, he goes, how many miles or I go, like 600. He goes, Oh, wow. It's brand new. I said, I just got it. Does I trade you the beetle Turbo S and 85 grand? And I said, Okay, and I gave him my beetle and had the I literally bought it the day before I went to the Kohler, the title was in the glove box. I signed the title over, did the car swap and drove it home. And my wife's like, Where's the beetle? I said, this is the beetle.

Jeff Sterns  5:53  
Well, that's ugly. And this is a Daytona coupe.

Unknown Speaker  5:56  
Yeah, exactly. I had a coupe and I had a trap roof as well, a couple years later.

Jeff Sterns  6:01  
Who did that? was it who did them? strommen or Who does? It was a strip

Unknown Speaker  6:03  
mine was a strawman car. Yeah. Okay. It was a pilot. My second one was a pile of junk, but I kind of wanted it and at the time, it was a good deal, though. Over $100,000 more than I paid for my first one. But it was years later was five years later. The thing was, it's interesting. My Daytona story is interesting. I, when I was about 1313, I was we lived in this. We lived in Tucson, Arizona, in this country club neighborhood, knowing that you had to walk to school, like two miles from our house and my parents were like, we're not driving you to school, you're walking. And I'm like, okay, and I'm in sixth grade. And I'm walking down to school. And I knew what car I was really aware of cars already knew what I liked and a guy in a Daytona in a euro model Daytona Plexi knows Daytona coupe pulls up. And he D badge the thing right, it was really interesting. And he had one bag, only then only the only the Catalina rempart was on the front of it. And I knew exactly what it was. And I said, he goes, Hey, where are you going? I said, Go on the bus stop. He goes, you want to ride? I'm saying Sure. Okay, already, if you did this in 2021. There'll be 911 calls, Amber, everything. Amber lights, all of it. So I said sure. And I hopped in the car and I go, this is amazing. He goes, You know what this is? I go Yeah, this is a 365 GTB for Ferrari Daytona. He was, you know, your car's for a kid. I go, this is my favorite car. He's like, Well, where do you go to school? I go Orange Grove and he goes, I know where that is. You might have taken a school instead. And I said no. And he made it the drive. When you're 13 you want someone that gives you a ride in a Ferrari for the first time you want that kind of drive you know hidden red line in first two gears driving like a maniac. And it imprinted so hard. I'm like I have to have one of these someday. And so when I had the means to do so. And this thing just showed up, and I bought it it was just and the 330 was a pale comparison to it. It was also an ugly terrible brown one and crappy but this it completely delivered on what I expected it to do. So

Jeff Sterns  8:11  
Gosh, yeah, there he got me thinking now he got me thinking I think the last Daytona and I know I mean, not today's Mark I mean not even close to today's market. Of course yours is not close to today's market. But I remember a tour de france blue Daytona Spyder great color that I left running a rolls and Bentley store in oh five. And it was shortly after that this customer was referred to me wanting to get rid of a 57 superamerica short wheelbase. I gotta be careful, serious. And this Daytona. And these clients can be interesting. Oh, I

Unknown Speaker  8:56  
ensure that I understand what you're saying.

Jeff Sterns  8:58  
So at the time, but I mean, the money sounds so cheap now because the superamerica short wheelbase he wanted 1.2 million at a zero it right and we found well he's I hope you hung on to it. We found we were upset as the ones selling it for but we found them about it. Like wasn't overnight. And the reason he was giving it to us surgically because we'd suggested you know an auction at Pebble Beach or something for car. Yeah, at the time. Whenever this Oh, five ish. Yep. Okay, so probably a five so, um, he says I don't want anyone to know that I'm selling it because he has all these friends that if he's gonna sell it would want it and who is he gonna hurt and all that business? Yes. So it was like a surgical secret sale and we get a deposit out of Belgium like 100 grand against the money because like it was a weird sale. Cuz it's like we had to sell it, but we couldn't tell anyone like Nobody. Nobody could know. So yeah, if you want to yes, no, you can't if you don't want it, you can tell anyway. So we get the deposit and he backs out of that sale. So good. I mean, I hope he has it. No. But anyway, we are a little upset is the one in the middle of selling it right? Yep. And then the other car was this Tour de France blue Daytona Spyder that we'd gotten 575 for. Again, right.

Unknown Speaker  10:36  
Yeah. 2,000,002 and a half million dollar car and TDF blue, probably two and a half million dollars. Yeah, maybe more.

Jeff Sterns  10:43  
So the the hitch in this deal after you already backed out on us on the 57 was that we'd sent the car, the buyer sent the money. And he didn't have a title. So we said, Hey, we got to give this guy's title. And he says, Well, I'm starting a foundation. And the cars owned by the foundation and I didn't finish the paperwork on making the foundation. And the foundation owns it. Just get the just get the car back. I think the guy had the car right and he and he paid us we're just like waiting for the title. So long story endless my partner at the time, flew to the state that the foundation was being formed in however he did it hand carried the paperwork through and made the foundation into a foundation and then got a title and flew back. So that's my trauma. When I hear about a Daytona Yeah, antics in the car business never end. It's just it's just, it's astounding. It's never ending. it's astounding and never ending. So I think my brain was in this Oh, five era. That's where I was. And when you said 100 grand Daytona I was thinking of a dino.

Unknown Speaker  12:09  
Yeah, cuz that was Yeah, my I bought I had a dino at a yellow Dino for a minute too. And I think I pay a coupe 246 GT coupe. No, flayers no chairs because I don't fit in players, chairs, cars, because the The seats are jacked up. And I'm 640 but 38 and it was kind of a driver, but it was like, it was astounding. And I it's a beautiful thing. And I think it was $38,000 this is probably Oh 203 that's what they cost. And then they went nuts. And at the time, I knew I am like these are under priced. And, and they were they were they were they were prey they were head to head with nine Alayna with early 911 ss you know shortnose nine longnose 911. So

Jeff Sterns  13:03  
was that like Mondeo money?

Unknown Speaker  13:06  
Pretty much? Yeah. And it was it was it was scruffy, you know, it was it was wonderful is that it was vinyl seats like they all had. Like they're pretty much every one of them had unless people ordered them special and very few did. And it was you know, older repaint. It was just a driver. It was just kind of a scruffy car, but I'm like, but it's a dino and mechanically It was pretty well sorted. And I'm like, yeah, you just buy this, you know, under 40 grand, and it was a fun car.

Jeff Sterns  13:34  
I mean, but it's one of the most gorgeous cars ever in mind. Oh,

Unknown Speaker  13:37  
I think it's the prettiest again, it's a bold statement. I think it's maybe one of the it's definitely the prettiest mid engine car the company ever built its production car. But it's maybe one of the top five most beautiful Ferrari has ever ever drawn. I think I mean, it's just a masterpiece. So

Jeff Sterns  13:56  
So I mean, we're gonna get into all this I just I mean your backgrounds amazing and I just want to like put it out there. So you're a Concorde judge. And I mean when we're making this recording, we're not even a week out from Amelia Island starting which you will not be attending because I got a double

Unknown Speaker  14:17  
whammy I have so I got so I drove a car this past week to go to Carlisle that the seats were not ideal for someone my size and I adjusted them stupid and I have sciatica. So I am not walking around Amelia with sciatica. So I'm like yeah, no, I'm not I'm just not doing that. So

Jeff Sterns  14:39  
I'm sorry about your cyanic it pain but I never had

Unknown Speaker  14:43  
I never had anything like this. It's like oh my god, this is excruciating pain. So sorry, Bill. That's why I'm not there. I can barely walk.

Jeff Sterns  14:50  
So. Okay, so to build Warner, we can say that this is not a boycott.

Unknown Speaker  14:56  
Yeah, not at all. Not at all. I just can't walk Phil it's great. Physical Therapy at six o'clock.

Jeff Sterns  15:03  
Yay. Not funny about sciatica but I did grow up in a Jewish neighborhood in Detroit, so I can't help. I got the cyan Right. Yeah. First thing that comes to mind, I'm glad you didn't say shingles. Oh, no, I

Unknown Speaker  15:18  
got Yeah, I grew up in West Bloomfield, so I totally understand it. Yeah, same neighborhood. Different, probably different place.

Jeff Sterns  15:27  
Okay, so here we are, folks. This is not a interview. This is a recorded conversation. So as this unfolds organically, my dad's lot was at Maine and crooks were Rochester road comes out in Royal Oak. That's funny. I grew up at 10 and a half in Greenfield in my dad's high rise next to a North Northland shopping center. Americana movie theater know exactly where that's Yes, and all the relatives were West Bloomfield, Farmington Hills and, and now but the sciatica thing was more in my grandma's building Lincoln towers. But now the relatives are commerce, Township, cash, Lake, etc. White.

Unknown Speaker  16:14  
Yeah, my grandma, my dad's mom was an Indian village. So when it was still a really nice neighborhood before it was not a nice neighborhood. And now it's getting to be a nice neighborhood. Again, everything transitions,

Jeff Sterns  16:25  
right. And if you're not from the area, this is not like a wigwam exhibit can no no. So you grew up in West Bloomfield until I was 11. Yeah. Also until I was 11. Okay. So all right. Imagine that. So we're God knows that we dug who we know and who would know and Kensington Academy and before that could DPR Detroit Country Day. So yeah, that's what I did. So. All right. That's very interesting. That's so funny. So I bring up the sciatica and we both were thinking when blue. Yeah. Or Miami in the winter or Lauderdale lakes. Exactly. Okay, that's, that's fabulous. So where you've been a now thank goodness, someone else wrote this note unless you wrote the note because it has well respected before it. So did you add in that well, respect, no,

Unknown Speaker  17:18  
somebody else did that. I would never do that. It's like, I got business cards for insurance and my boss, put on it. collector auto guru. And I didn't realize that he did it. I just got new business cards, and I was handing them out and a couple three years ago and Emilio to somebody is ago collector auto guru and I went, What are you talking about? And he goes, look at your card. I'm like, That jerk. He didn't even tell me. And to my, to my detriment. I didn't prove it either. So, but he thought that was really funny. So, but no, I would not add those kinds of titles. Somebody else wrote the I think Hilton had wrote that.

Jeff Sterns  17:58  
So well respected Concord judge. Hilton Head concor Radnor hunt. Cincinnati, in Lime Rock vintage festival, so

Unknown Speaker  18:09  
and grants and you know, all of them, you know, I mean, Chattanooga, give a shout out to Chattanooga, best first year Concord have ever been to. And it's going really here. Yeah. And they're additive vintage race this year, which is going to be really cool.

Jeff Sterns  18:25  
I'll be at Radnor on September right. Nice. Yep. You'll be there judging motorcycles. Yep. There or somewhere. We'll shake hands. But Exactly. There. We'll meet. So tell us a little bit about the insurance business.

Unknown Speaker  18:38  
Let's plug a little. Well, it's funny. So I used to work. I worked for a classy Motorsports for like 12 years as the auction editor and I got fired over a number of things. And, and Tim and I are friends. We hung out this weekend at Carlisle. So Tim stuttered and I are pals. I just interviewed him for a story I wrote two weeks ago. But I didn't know what I was gonna do. I was underemployed. My wife was on my back. And she had mentioned I should think about collector car insurance. I'm like, What are you talking about? Why do I want to do that? And Brad Phillips from Haggerty said, Why don't you sell collector car insurance? And I said, Well, I don't know. He's like, Well, you can't work for us directly. Because you have all this other stuff that you probably don't want to let go to him. I said no, I like this writing thing. And he's like, that's gonna be hard to do at Haggerty. But why don't you get an insurance license and figure this out. And he and my friend Matt Oren, Dec, who is now who works still works for Haggerty, who now they both do, but who now runs Greenwich concor they were my study buddies for my insurance test. mckeel actually was actually I called him up because I got stuck on something I couldn't get them. And it didn't occur to me because it never does not call the CEO of the company with an assurance test question I was like so. So what does this mean and so mckeel, Brad and Matthew, who are Really senior. Were my study buddies for my insurance test because I didn't know diddly squat about the insurance industry and I got the test. So I got the I got the thing. I got my license, and I'm like, What am I doing now? And Brad's like, well, he should interview places. And so I interviewed at one company. And it was cubes. And I hadn't worked in cubes since my early AOL days. And I don't like cubes. It's just no fun. I just hate it. And I interviewed at another place. These guys wanted to hire me right away. And I'm like, I call Brad and goes, Yeah, you don't want to work with those guys, because they don't know what they're doing. And he was you should call this guy named Morgan Duffy, who runs this company called Hayden wood insurance. He's a brokerage who specializes in collector cars. And so I got the truck guys call me back. I'm like, Yeah, I don't know. I'm deciding. And I went into it was this long pressure interview on the first one, the second one, they Hey, we'll hire you. I'm like, What? Okay. So I went into Morgan's office, and I said, Hi, I'm here to see Morgan Duffy, because that's me. He goes, I'm supposed to hire you. Everybody has told me to hire you. I said, Okay. He goes, do you like Mexican food. And I said, I love Mexican food, because you're hired, let's go into Mexican food. And that's how I got involved in insurance. And we to train me then after the tribute. Here's how this works. And here's what you need to do. And here's how these forms work. But it was an interesting addition because it kind of put it was like a piece of the puzzle that was missing as it were. And so let me take the different things and smoosh them together. Because automotive journalism does not pay the bills.

Jeff Sterns  21:32  
No, it just looks so sexy and glamorous. Not unless you're like PD or somebody's got it. So you know, Clint sly, I'm sure.

Unknown Speaker  21:41  
This for years and years. We have accidentally gone on vacation in Hawaii with he and his wife twice, where they are at the same time and we we end up getting dinners and stuff. wonderful guy.

Jeff Sterns  21:53  
twice in Hawaii. Coincidentally different

Unknown Speaker  21:55  
times. Yes. different times, I think on two different islands even. Which is interesting. Yeah, he we've been clean. I've been friends for heck. 15 years since he was at Haggerty, so. And it says he's left so

Jeff Sterns  22:12  
I think I've also known Clint. Since what probably 16 1516 years. Matter of fact, you remember his condo development stint? Yeah. Okay, we went we met in the middle of all that business.

Unknown Speaker  22:29  
Yeah, he tried to get me in charge of the motorcycle division at Haggerty because I was one of the few guys that understood classic bikes at the time. And it just the timing wasn't right. And, and I didn't know I wasn't licensed yet either. It was more of a marketing scheme role. And I wasn't involved in the industry like I am now. And they're like, Yeah, no, we don't want you. I'm like, okay, that's fine. Clint, you're obsessed about your shoes. You know, he's got these Gucci shoes. He's got like 26,000 pairs, and he resold them and sold them special. And he's just completely crazy about these days. And it's like, he that's the only funny that's the only goofy thing about Clint. It's not goofy. It's just like he is just, obsessively perfectionistic about these shoes. And you've seen them it's the Goofy, Goofy shoes he wears all the time.

Jeff Sterns  23:16  
So British cars, Bentley Brooklands, and just stop me when there's a story or something to talk about with one of these cars.

Unknown Speaker  23:24  
Well Brooklands is funny. I was we were living in Dublin, California. And I don't even know what the hell car I had. Besides that, that point I had something else. I might have a 328 but I can't remember. I was short cash. But I had this Brooklyn's. I saw this Brooklyn I saw list on Craigslist, Bentley Brooklyn's 26,000 miles. Two owners British racing green. It was like 23, five, and 1993. And I went, Oh, that's interesting. And it was a mile and a half from our house. I'm like, What the heck's got this? I know where I live. I haven't seen this floating around. There were no pictures. And I'm like, I had so close. I'm gonna it could have been a scam could have not. So I cruised over to the guy's house. I wrote my Norton commando over. And I'm like, Huh. Look at this. And he goes, Well, yeah, this is that and I'm like, well, this is definitely what you said it was. And I drove it and it was actually a 94 which is a better car with better fuel injection and it was immaculate as represented. It was a bespoke special order. BRG with spruce leather, and the Bentley rexine. You know, that they put on the bodies, the headliner was in Bentley, rexine special order. It was all this crazy nonsense, and it was stick it out like 322 when they were done. With every added crazy thing you could have and my wife was out of town for a couple days. I'm like crap, I can't pull 2020 three grand out of our accounts and I need to do this. So can you wait mark a couple days, guys? sure that's what so I had this Rolex GMT Master that I bought about six years before a solid gold one. And I had something else. A Ferrari book, signed Enzo Ferrari book. And a friend of mine wanted the book and another friend of mine wanted the GMAT. And it actually added up to 20 $20,000, the two things and I sold the watch and sold the thing I said, I had three, five or six grand sitting around. So I got the rest of the money in the bank, and bought this thing and proud home. And my friend Gary drove me over there, his Corvette, by the thing drove home and shows up she goes, What's with the green car? I said, Oh, that's our card. It's like you bought and my wife's very conservative. She's like, she doesn't like to be showy and stuff. So she goes, why don't you buy this? I go, because it's a Bentley. And she says, How did you afford this? I said, I saw the watch in a book. And she said, he did what? I saw the girl rock. So in a book, she goes, did you like the rocks? I'm like, I'm not that not as much as this. And so she was I think this is stupid car, okay. And then I said, Hey, we're going to a Rolls Royce club thing on Saturday. You want to go she's like, what is it? It's a picnic. She goes, Oh, I can bake. So she baked a bunch of stuff because she's a serious Baker. And she got in the Bentley for the first time with the lambs will odermatt shuts the door. She goes, Oh, my God, I go. Yeah, because this is amazing. I said, Yeah, this is a Bentley. It's just what did this cost to new? And I said $300,000 Plus, just what did you pay for this lien? I said, 23 five. She goes, this is the nicest car we've ever owned. And I said, Yes, it is. And she had a great time. We love the car, we put 25,000 miles on it in 18 months, which is a lot of a lot of miles on one of those. And it never failed. I never had any issues. And the funniest thing was about six months later, Mercedes is introducing the new s class. And so I flew in it was at Palm Springs, and I drove down to SFO and flew out of SFO. And and did the press launch on the way back, the PR people from Mercedes of the time, they fly, they flew back to San Francisco. So they're gonna send you there. And they said, they said, Hey, can you give a car here? I said, you want to give us a ride to our hotel? And I said, Sure. So we jump into Bentley, they get in. And they are one PR person who's British goes, Oh, goodness, I said what was just the shame of everything is is that we simply can't afford to build a car this nice Mercedes Benz you can't make a mass produced thing this nice. This is extraordinary. And I might I agree with you. It was they're just very special things if you get a really good one. They're, they're amazing. They're just they're like driving around a British gentlemen's club not a you know, a traditional like a, you know, like a proper gentleman's dinner club with gambling and things. It's just they're magnificent things.

Jeff Sterns  28:09  
I'm totally curious to hear about the option list because you said it was a bespoke car and oh,

Unknown Speaker  28:15  
picnic tables. umbrellas, decanters security system, firearm hiding place for underneath the passenger seat, there was a compartment a hidden radar detectors front and rear hidden radar jammer installed from the factory

Jeff Sterns  28:39  
factory, okay, I've not seen that. Okay,

Unknown Speaker  28:42  
all kinds of weird stuff higher spec engine performance. The interior panel at the interior is you couldn't this was a it was basically made to order you couldn't order it with this color combo. And then the materials so they just built one. It's a one off

Jeff Sterns  28:57  
and spruce is green leather.

Unknown Speaker  28:59  
Yeah, dark green leather. It's green leather that was matched to a 1929 Bentley, who three liter car and they literally had it they had that a he made that car to match his old one. And it was exactly the same color as me hence the rexine on the roof on the on the on the on this on the headliner, because that matched it to and it was nuts car and I thought wow, this is a lot of green. I got into it and like yeah, this is really nice. And it really worked standard wheelbase. Standard wheelbase. Standard wheelbase.

Jeff Sterns  29:36  
Did it have the like small back window on him? new

Unknown Speaker  29:41  
big back window. Yeah, it was it was a lot of weird stuff.

Jeff Sterns  29:44  
And you didn't get murdered on the maintenance?

Unknown Speaker  29:48  
No, I didn't. I think it cost about 1500 bucks a year which is like any car

Jeff Sterns  29:53  
that's free on a Bentley free Yes.

Unknown Speaker  29:55  
Yes. We're gonna Bentley and it's like no more than a BMW, Porsche Mercedes. A key, you know, if you take care of it properly. I mean, it was just minor stuff. You know, nothing ever went wrong. Fabulous. Okay, no service records like a phone book. Right. So.

Jeff Sterns  30:13  
So the story other than how beautiful it was in the comment from Mercedes Mercedes staff I mean that's, that's incredible

Unknown Speaker  30:22  
yeah which will be which will who will be not be named because they'll get in trouble

Jeff Sterns  30:27  
right I understand they need to remain anonymous. Of course this could be the scoop that could get my podcast you know known but we're not going to name this ruins people

Unknown Speaker  30:36  
can back into it and figure it out. I mean if they would want to they go who was NPR when they launched they as class around the mid 2000s. And it'll all make sense.

Jeff Sterns  30:46  
So speaking of resale issues I see also a DBS and a DB seven in your past.

Unknown Speaker  30:52  
The DBS is the saddest thing. The DBS was the was a car I bought. Have you been out to Eric Jackson for Arizona before? Right?

Jeff Sterns  31:01  
Yes, yes. So

Unknown Speaker  31:02  
you remember in the olden days in the early 2000s, when you'd show up on Sunday morning. And that's actually the era the era that I was going was 2000 205 ish. Yeah. And there was nobody there and Sunday morning, but they were selling cars and the room was empty, because they were all drunk because they started the thing at 9am. And everybody was drunk from the night before. So I'm sitting there, and I think 2002

Jeff Sterns  31:24  
Let's explain this to the audience. So Andy, we don't know that everyone has this experience. Yeah, yeah. So what Andy's talking about is cars running through an auction. And if you don't have a lot of people they're competing to buy. Once in a while a car could maybe be bought, right? Because you're not competing against a roomful of bidders,

Unknown Speaker  31:46  
and it never happens anymore. It's sad. So I'm there like, I'm there for media, but I've got a visitor's pass, right. So I'm sitting there and my carotid out taking a picture here and there is no two or three, I guess oh three. And this E Bs and silverbirch with black leather rolls up their left hand drive five speed AC car, I'm like, so I go, you walk up to the block, because that was very easy to do back then there's nobody in the room. So I'm walking up on my car and they go, do we have 20,000? Do we have 20,000? I'm like, Yeah, you do. And so and that's, you know, and so I gave him my 20,000 bid. And there's somebody bid 21. And I bid 21, five, and even 22. And I said 24, five, as a big closed bid, right? big heavy hitter, and ended up with the freakin car. And I'm like, wow. And the thing is, they were probably worth about 35 then because they hadn't gone crazy yet. And it wasn't injected cars and all this stuff, which is good and a bad thing. And I got I got an EBS and I had it for a couple years. And we were living in Arizona at the time. And I was moving to Richmond, Virginia with my wife. And I was like, oh, cool, I guess so. And I'm like, Ah, it's going to Virginia, it's going to get all screwed up because the weather because it snows there and this wasn't going to be a snow thing. And I talked to a friend of mine, my friend Don rose used to be in Vienna be a specialist at RM and he's an Aston guru. So you think the DBS is ever gonna be worth anything? This is like two years later. You know, it's a James Bond cars that you haven't it's a James Bond nobody cares about. And it's kind of whether they're kind of 35 or 40. And that's kind of what they're probably going to be forever. I'm like, Well, you know, I've had this for a while and my wife calls it this Camaro, which always made me unhappy. And so I sold it to a guy for 40 grand. And my exact Vin a couple years ago full sold for 167. So, yeah, now I didn't lose money on the car. It was a great car. It's the only car I've owned. I want back. But I can't spend the I can't. I can't if I say Hey, honey, we're gonna go buy this. She's like, No, we're not.

Jeff Sterns  34:11  
I was thinking about BMW puts a little like tube into the cabin of the car from the engine compartment. Yep, my z Ford's got one. Yes. And it's it's great. Now it gives you the the visceral experience.

Unknown Speaker  34:26  
And it's not like who has a Toyota with Lexus where they actually use a fake sound through the stereo or something? I think

Jeff Sterns  34:34  
Well, I think that's for electric right? Or for hybrid? No, I think it's for standard two. I didn't know that. Oh,

Unknown Speaker  34:40  
no, I know it's for that. I know. It's for the LC 500 h which is the hybrid so it's probably just the hybrid because let's spend a lot of money, a lot of time and money on their exhaust sounds for the naturalist but I know the hybrid has a piped in sound and Sport Plus. But I think the tube is great let you hear stuff. So

Jeff Sterns  34:59  
it's fab ls in the Z for and it's analog. Right? Imagine that one thing that won't break. One thing that doesn't need a chip.

Unknown Speaker  35:11  
Exactly. And you know, I'm I just I did a similar thing. I've my I've got 2000 to try and bonneval. And it's got a snorkel into the airbox. And it doesn't really do anything. It just proved sound, it makes it said noise regulation EU thing. And so if you pull it off, you can hear the carburetors working. You can hear the induction sound and I'm like, that's got to be nonsense. And so my friend Jimmy, he was mister motorcycle expert and my guru for all things. motorcycles. Yes. Pull that thing off and tell me you think I went, Wow, it even sounds better. He's like, yep. And it goes. And it's actually a little snappier because it's a little less restrictive. So it's the same kind of thing. It just reduces something between you so.

Jeff Sterns  35:53  
And you now, do you now have a 401? Do you have a Bristol? 401k? 401. Yes. Left hand drive. Okay, which is hard to find. That's very, very interesting car. Yeah, and I worry behind that.

Unknown Speaker  36:12  
Well, I had a 408 I've only bought it from totally or on top, who's famous classic car guy and racing guy and the whole thing raced at daytona and Targa Florio and stuff. We've known each other for 15 years or so. And I always I like things that people don't I love to have cars that people don't necessarily know what they are sometimes, right. And Bristol is was a very interesting thing. So in the process of buying in Bristol, I got to meet Tony crook from Bristol and and Sir George white, and all that when Island trip to London and I really learned about the company. And I could be and as before, I bought my Bristol privately. And I'm like I said, I'm really interested in buying in Bristol, and they basically both they serve George and his son. interview, I was in basically a job interview to buy a car. And they asked me questions of why I like Bristol and what it was and what I did, and I dressed up for it because a friend of mine told me to make sure to dress properly to go to Bristol. And I did

Jeff Sterns  37:18  
that was no problem for you. You're like Yes,

Unknown Speaker  37:21  
yeah, I'm like dressing perfect opportunity to buy some clothes. And so I went over they sent me over to Tony crooks up office, which was not at he didn't even own Bristol anymore. And so I TALKED TO TONY for a while. He asked me that middle of similar questions. And I said, Sir George, and then I'll see you it at back at the dealership, and thank you very much. And so he sent me a I've got an autographed picture of him that he gave me when he was robbed him racing that I've still got on the wall over here, which is kind of fun. And he died like six months later. So I went back there and they go, Well, Mr. Reed, Tony crook, and we and Tony think that you be a proper person that went to Bristol, and I wasn't buying a car from them. I'm like, okay, so I went back to totally and totally said that the that the powers that be at Bristol had told him it was okay for him, them him to sell me the car because totally dollar order three or four bristols from Bristol direct in the day. So he was connected. And so I bought it from him. And it was okay, but I didn't really love it. It was a right hand drive car and they're really big. They're a good size car. 408 says it's a full four seater two door that giant people can sit in the back seats up. And it was a little scruffy. So I sold it to my friend Robin Kirk. And then I kind of missed it and wanted another one. But I really wanted a classic one, like a true Bristol Bristol with a Bristol engine. And a client of mine bought this car. And it's now my car. We're still working out the details. But he's fundamentally aware that it's my 401. And it was at an RM auction a couple years ago and was sold for very light money. I think it was in Argentina or someplace weird. And and it was just it was too under the money. And I made the deal with my client. I said, here's the thing. This is my car. We got like eight cars, I helped him get eight cars at the sale. I said, you keep this as long as you want it, but I'm paying this is our deal. I'm not getting paid for helping you or selling me this car for what we have in it. When I when we when you're done with it. He goes what's your car? And I said great. So you know, and I get to drive it anytime I want to because it's in Maine, so it's easy to get to. But it's my last serious classic car I want to spend money on because I just don't need anything else anymore. So I've done a lot of stuff.

Jeff Sterns  39:46  
Sounds like the sexy life.

Unknown Speaker  39:50  
Now. Ad re it's just been it's been fun. I played with so much stuff and often times I'll get someone else's car to drive on this or whatever else and race this or whatever else. And I've only got so many right now. And, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine and like, I was thinking about something is another tvr this week and, and his comment was, you know your z for? That's immaculate does everything that car does better. And I went You're right. So it's interesting that, you know, a car like that is kind of ruined me for the classic car hobby to a certain degree. But you know, I had a z three at a James Bond edition c three that I had for about 67 years. Another friend of mine bought, who is never gonna sell it. He's a James Bond fanatic. I am kind of two but he is even more than me. But the Z for I did was kind of my wife founded our neighborhood. And I said, Okay, this is pretty cool. And I've not driven one since their launch in oh three. So I hadn't been in one. And the one I had was a two and a half the press car I got for that launch was the two and a half liter automatic, like the one you don't want. And I this is a three liter six with a sport package. And I was test driving and I called Tom Kosinski from BMW. And I said, Is this as good as it seems? It is He goes, What do you drive and I said, this is c four. And he goes, give me the VIN, you gotta set it out. He rented and he's like, I asked a really nice spec car, I had one of those as a as a corporate car, you're gonna love that thing. And he has not been wrong. It just, it does enough vintage and does enough modern to be kind of a perfect package. And it's the edge that you know, in line six, three liter BMW M 54. Motor sounds fantastic. So it's kind of BMW broke my classic car thing to a certain degree.

Jeff Sterns  41:47  
Well, that's because you got a little intellectual about it.

Unknown Speaker  41:49  
Yep. Well, the Bristol is kind of a BMW, right? Because it's got a BMW, you know. 328 motor from pre war in it, basically. So the grille is the same.

Jeff Sterns  42:03  
I'm looking now Yes, we'll put. We'll put pictures up. We'll put some pictures up while we're talking about this. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, the kidney.

Unknown Speaker  42:12  
Yeah. And that's it. And it's a BMW drive. You know, they stole the tooling from BMW for the 328 motor. The British there they said this is ours now and that's what that motor is. And that's why they're so damn expensive is because if you have a 328 your vintage racing or vintage rally you can't buy a block so people were robbing six cylinder bristols for that stuff a lot. So or are no Bristol guys or anybody racing in Bristol engine thing? They've robbed the road cars. So

Jeff Sterns  42:43  
speaking of James Bond, are you a James Bond movie not or a James Bond car in movie not?

Unknown Speaker  42:51  
Yes. Cars, books, movies. I'll turn my little thing here. Those books over there on the top shelf, top shelf, second shelf, which is blog, the two to two shelves there. There's a couple mystery mixture ones in there. But there's a signed Ian Fleming book. There's a sign john Gardner book. There's a I have an issue with James Bond. I've got James Bond omega seamaster 40th anniversary watch. I've got a James Bond. Turnbull and Asser suits that I had made. That's exactly like one of his shirts, shoes. A pea coat that Daniel Craig was the cutting. Can't remember company makes it But Daniel Craig wore the same exact pea coat in Skyfall. And I own that. Yeah, I have a my wife would say it's a serious problem.

Jeff Sterns  43:47  
Okay, that's real. And when you get the same suit, I mean, are you getting the same fit?

Unknown Speaker  43:53  
No, I'm not as thin as Craig says. But, but mine is actually a Connery suit. But I'm still probably not as thin as Sean Connery was then though. But it's same material. Same exact

Jeff Sterns  44:02  
that tight Beatle suit look.

Unknown Speaker  44:05  
No, it's more about proper British cut. Okay, traditional same material. Same lapels, same button. combination, the same straight fit pants. Same non cuffs. Yeah, we went nuts because they made the suits for them originally. And so they have it all there and they can just cut it to match. So

Jeff Sterns  44:22  
you're not the first person who asked for one. Oh, no. Oh, no. So racing. I mean, you mentioned vintage vintage racing, but you've raced professionally,

Unknown Speaker  44:32  
right? Yeah. I raced it in a couple NASCAR series.

Jeff Sterns  44:36  
pretty serious.

Unknown Speaker  44:37  
Yeah, it was. It was very serious. It was we actually moved to we were living in California. I was doing California NASCAR series. And we moved to my wife Well, I got a job at a startup from from some friends. My first startup I was involved in first successful startup I was involved in that move me to Virginia and and like Well, you can race there better because it's more in the home of things. And so I picked up and moved to Virginia with my wife, DC area. And I ran the goodies, the series there because, and I knew it. I knew from what in the West and the tour and those things that I was never going to be a cab driver, or probably even a bus driver. And I wanted to run Daytona and Bristol. And the only way to run Daytona and Bristol on an oval is either our con i didn't care, I could care less about ARCA. He can't get sponsors for it or you definitely couldn't then you need to download Okay, I'm sure you can't now. Or the goodies, the series. And so the problem is I'm six foot four, and they're tiny cars. And so I got ahold of Michael Waltrip through some friends who is six foot four. And I said so it's the Andy Reid. You don't know me. But I'm friends with Schrader and those guys and I trying to find out who built your goodies, goodies, NASCAR, he goes Charlie Weaver, and you call them up? And so I call it Charlie Weaver up. And he's like, Well, do you have any money? And I said, Yeah, but I've also got a sponsorship deal with TRD. And so and he'd worked with TRD before but he had, so we went Cody's dash racing, so, and it was my final series. And it was fun. I don't regret it. I never do it again, because it ate so much money. It was unfathomable. And so much time. And I would never want to do it now. Because it's not nearly as fun. It's so much work.

Jeff Sterns  46:37  
Did you ever get scared

Unknown Speaker  46:38  
now? Well, that's not true. In my last year, I was running this. I can't run what car it was. But I was running into like, like a wreck a little local racetrack just for some track time. just messing around. And I lost concentration. And just in practice, right. And I was I my wife was wanting us to go on this trip. And I was squeezing this race in and and it was like Fourth of July weekend. It was a Friday before the Saturday fourth. And so I was running this race and my crew was down there and balling around. And I lost concentration and practice going pretty good at this monascus race track which no longer exists, I don't think but it was one of the one of the old old 1940s racetracks been around forever terrible track horrible lighting. And I hit the wall really hard. ident this thing's better than I ever been a race car ever. I was like, and I got on a car all pissed off. I looked the car and holy crap, you know. And I was in my last year. And I'm like, wow, this is dangerous. And it never really occurred to me then. That it was dangerous. I yeah, a friend of mine calls it and racing friend of mine says racecar drivers have one thing in common. That's a lack of imagination about what could happen. And I gained my imagine and I have a good imagination about like writing things. But I really truly was that guy with like, Oh, nothing will happen. And and I recognized I was recognized by somebody else in my first race in a NASCAR car and just got in and won the next week. We good we bought the car so I wasn't I again, lack of imagination. And and that thing was totaled we I flipped that car 13 times got on the car pissed off and wanted to punch him in the head. But then I told the guy we're building this car and putting it back on the track next week already kicking his butt. And we did which was great with in my first two races ever. But after that wreck, we were running a legends car of all things too, which is a terrible race car. Sorry, guys. Sorry, sorry. humpy Wheeler, the Legend's car was a bad idea. And or a good idea poorly executed. And I'm like, wow, I can kill myself doing this. And dayla died that year. I'd seen that. And I'm like, it started to become really clear to me that I was in my 30s and getting older and not getting younger and that everybody I was racing it with was 21 years old. It seemed like a lot of the newer guys. The older guys were getting out. And I just I bailed. I said I'm out of here. And at the end of the season, I failed to renew it. There was a contract renewal. I said, you know, I'm going to step away from this and thank you very much. And

Jeff Sterns  49:40  
I had Derrick bell on one of my first shows and talking to him about this and I asked him when I asked you do you get scared because to me i mean it's it's serious. It's really serious when you're out there and but talking to Derek Bell I mean, you know in his early days X amount of people died every week. Yep. Or, you know, every race and I just couldn't imagine. And he's like, Look, I'm not a daredevil. I won't jump out of an airplane. I'm not you know, it's not like that. It's just like I you worded it well, or the person that worded it for you about lack of imagination. I think you just can't think about that. And I think maybe the line in the sand moves a little bit at a time. I mean, cuz you're you didn't you didn't go from zero to professional racecar driver. You had some stuff in the middle. They got Oh, oh, no. Oh, no. Okay. So

Unknown Speaker  50:41  
I did. I told this story. About four years ago, I was sitting on a table with Tommy Kendall. I'm not just named Robbie. I'm just framing this with TK and Hobbs and Bill Oberlin. Ah, moss like the variable legends and schlubs there and schlub being me. And we're talking about race in blah, blah, blah. And so, TK who knows me pretty well, I know all those guys. I knew. I mean, you're just trolling pretty well, but I mean, it's those being a journalist. I've got to be powerful. Those guys Thompson, I'd gotten over COVID got really thick. We're pals. It's nice. And same with TV, TK, I've known each other for years. People always introduce us and like, Have we met? It's our funny little gag. But so I'm sitting there and and Hobbes goes to you who did not Hobbes, but TK goes through race cars. Why didn't you race cars? And did Hobbes and perfect won the bloody hell would you race those terrible things for? And I said, Well, here's what I thought. I thought, American VA. At the time, I initially bias ply tires, a carburetor, that it was be the cheapest way to go racing. And Bill Oberlin looked at me, and just busted out laughing. And so TK goes, and what did you find out? I said, I found out I was wrong. He goes, how long did it take? I said, five years? He goes, why didn't you know I said, Well, you know, you guys use a motor race? And I said, Yeah, we sure do. But I assumed that when you ran a Porsche or cup car that you replace the race, motor, every race either and they, they use them all year. And it never occurred to me to do anything else. And so what I did, I was working in an ad agency in Palo Alto. And I'm like, I'm gonna go racing and my friends like, okay, and I had money to do it. So I went up there with a checkbook and went to the track, which is ultimate Raceway Park, and I go, I want to go racing next. So that's great. What do I do? He's like, fill out this form. So I fill out this form. Because you need to get a medical I said, I got it. This is the websites are happening. So I go, here's my medical for my doctor is great. You get a picture right there. Perfect. What level Do you want to raise that? I don't I don't know. If you want to be challenge charger, or do you want to be great American modified rails? I said, I don't know. Cuz I think I'm gonna do some higher level stuff here. He's like, well, then you should probably get a Southwest tura truck license, California super trucks is what they're called. And I said, Okay, sign me up for a Southwest who are licensed and so I got Southwest license. I got a quick license. And so I said, Okay, so what's the deal? What do I do next? He goes, Well, you need a car. I said, Okay, well, what do I do that he's like, well, there's a guy here, that rents them for races. It's an arriving drag program. I'm like, arrive and drive. What is that? And they go, Well, we they were off the cars, they get you ready to go. You have to have safety gear, you show up in your race car. I said, What's that cost? They told me I said, Okay, so we'll introduce you. He's down there testing. I said, Great. So I went down there and I met a guy. He goes, Greg, this is Andy, and he is Greg. And he wants to raise one of your cars. He was great. Getting experience. I'm like, No, he's ever been in a racing school. I said, No, he's like, okay, we'll teach you. And so I got in the race car the next weekend. I got safety gear from company in wine country Motorsports at its Sears Point. And I didn't get Simpson like all the NASCAR guys i got i got i was a sheath. Here's the funny thing. I'm a Formula One and endurance racing fan going NASCAR racing. So I got an A ride helmet, a sparco seat as sparco suit sparco gloves. And I bought my outfit. I'm like the only guy wearing the Formula One crap, but I knew it was the safest stuff. And people are like, wow, you spent $1,000 on a helmet. I'm like, yep, I sure did. You know, you can get a bill for 300 bucks. Yes, I do. But I was just like, I was copying Schumacher. But I figured if Schumacher wore that stuff, then that's probably the best stuff in the world the way to buy and so and it's the safest, so I bought all his stuff. And I showed up there and went racing and was terrible. And he's like, you're just terrible at this. I said, I know. So We did about 100 laps at this half mile oval, in this

Jeff Sterns  55:03  
year, just terrible. I know I didn't

Unknown Speaker  55:04  
know what I was doing, you know? And so I got better and better as the day went on, I wasn't just terrible. I probably did 100 150 laps and a half mile track. So I did all this is like okay, there's our first race is next week on Friday. Okay, so I show up there. And this is this is California super trucks is like this exhibition series at this point. It's not Craftsman truck series. It's not points. It's just this thing. But they're, you know, it's basically nine to one, Winston Cup chassis nine to one, eight and three, you know, 358 cubic inch when some contrasting run this Ford, and I'm racing the race, and I'm not in the back. And I don't know what I'm doing. I'm blocking everybody. I'm driving like an idiot because I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what the rules are, except what I've learned in 100 and some laps at the practice. And somebody comes into me getting Dave coming out a current four I was finally I was finally opening up the wheel for the first time that pushed the race car out, which was the hardest thing to darn well learn. And I just felt like you'd hit the wall. And I finally let the car free up and I went, huh. And I was just, you know, unloading it to slide up to the wall. And this guy named Dave made an error and caught me in the right in the left rear corner with his right front, flipped me on my roof and sent me down the front stretch wall. And I remember thinking to myself, and I'd read a lot of books about stock car racing and what I read about I didn't read, like how to do it books I read like Richard Petty's biography and Dale and everybody, you know, Cale Yarborough's biography. And there's a lot of tips in those there's a lot of, and I remember reading and in Petty's biography, that when you're upside down in a race car, take it out of gear, and hammer the gas against the limiter to keep it from starving fuel installing. So if you end up on your wheels again, the car still running. So I did that. And at the time, I'm thinking, Wow, this looks just like ESPN, because I'm upside down, right? Like this looks like just like it does with the in car camera. They came off the wall and tumbled about eight times. Now actually, more than that, like I think it was like 13 times down the front stretch, and the car still running. And the flag is red flags are out and guys run over get out the car. I said no. Leave me alone. Drop a yellow flag. I'm driving this car. It's fine. He said, No, you don't understand. I said no. Shut up. I'm driving this car. I saved that. It's still running. I don't want to shut it off. They go. Here's the deal. Leave it running. Get out of the car. When you look at the car, then tell us if you're going to go racing. Okay, so I pop that pop, pop my harness and pop the net climbed out of the car. And there was like the chassis and the cab and the engine missing a fender and Darrell was in a corner on the car. There was one like one wheel on it. And the rear ends and the turn, you know, in the middle of the frontstretch. I go Okay, I get it. But my crew chief at the time thought I was dead. Absolutely thought I was a dead person. And you'd understand I've got a video of it somewhere that's on VHS and but the funny thing is I got there they go my guy Greg was during the conference. So you're done. I said no, put the car back together. We're going to we're going to kick ass with it next week. And we did. We won, we won a race. We got I got my first bud Paul award with that car. I got my first win with that car. And the second day I'm out and by then then my crew chief, my crew chief I gathered at that second race was someone who was in their team, getting Bob Jones. He's the best ever use was Brendan gone after I was gone. No pun intended there. But he moved up I did not. He said you need some training. And he sent me to buck Baker school. And I learned a lot at buck Baker school because I actually learned in four days actually how to do this stuff. Because I really didn't know what I was doing. And so but all you had to do was pay your I think was 250 bucks for the for the truck license or 300 bucks for the truck, license your medical fill the form and get a car and that was that was it. It's not that way anymore. But that's as simple as it it was you could get you could get everything but a cup license that way.

Jeff Sterns  59:23  
Now this car that you rolled in eight times or 12 times and Okay, and you said Oh, you actually were loose, lucid and fall rolling to remember what you're reading in this autobiography about keep it on the rev limiter.

Unknown Speaker  59:40  
Yeah. And I was talking about I was talking to this to another racer. And I think that that's kind of when what I was that whenever I tell my crew chief this story He's like, you're the real deal that you're really you're probably you're not you're not Jeff Gordon, but you're a real racer. I go why cuz cuz normal people can't do this. And their brains don't work that fast. And and they don't think goofball stuff like, Wow, it looks like the in car camera at ESPN in the middle of it. And they're not watching their gauges at this point. And and that's when I was I was like he's like you just don't know what you're doing but you've got the brain for this.

Jeff Sterns  1:00:15  
And are you in it? Were you in in arrive and drive car in this wreck? Oh yeah. So what happens there? I wrote a giant check. We end up buying cars later you didn't get the damage waiver.

Unknown Speaker  1:00:29  
There's no damage when there's damage waivers. 500 bucks, you have to go over 500 bucks. It's all on you. And I wanted to put that number six truck back together. And so we did. I've actually got the roof of that truck in my shed. It has traveled with me. everywhere I've moved because we cut the Batman that with the roof was bent like a pretzel. It was totally bent in but I've kept that roof forever that my guy cut off. I said I want the roof. He said we're going to cut the roof off. I said, I want that. And I that's been like this Curio that is traveled with me ever since. Because we took that next race that same race car and I run a bud Paul award and won a race with it. The week afterwards.

Jeff Sterns  1:01:05  
Can you Andy? Get me that footage digitally somehow or loan me the tape and find it?

Unknown Speaker  1:01:13  
I'd have to find it. It's on a VHS tape. It's not on the I've looked for it on the internet. The guy that made this disc Alan guy that made those videos is long gone. He's passed away. And you know, this is like 96 or seven. And nobody's digitized this stuff?

Jeff Sterns  1:01:34  
No, I'm just saying if you have the tape, you can do

Unknown Speaker  1:01:36  
it. I'll do I can find the VHS tapes, wherever they are. If I think I still have them, but I'm not sure. I will definitely send it to you.

Jeff Sterns  1:01:45  
I'll get it done and give it back.

Unknown Speaker  1:01:48  
Yeah. If if I can. I mean, I get it. It's like, you know, I have no idea where that stuff is.

Jeff Sterns  1:01:55  
If you bump into it, you know in the next couple of weeks. Either you get a digitizer or give it to these slow

Unknown Speaker  1:02:02  
motions it Oh, man, it was just hysterical. Because it was such a spectacle because everybody thought I was dead. Because I you know, I look at the tape. My wife looked at at once and she's like, Oh my god, I'm never watching your race. And and that that is the most horrible thing I've ever seen. And I just wanted to punch David Dave lights out, because he hit me. But he wasn't he just you know, he just made an error or his car slipped up. I mean, it was just it was a racing thing. But at the time, I was hot. But no, it's interesting. It's like It's like, you know, that's the time though. I found out that I could do stuff. I was okay. I was like, because it didn't scare me. I just wanted to go back and do it again. And and the average civilian would be like, hey, yeah, that was my racing experience. Your Michigan. It was it was interesting. But no, so yeah, so it's, it's it was it was fun to do it. And you know, we were in when we were running Western trucks and southwest to or we were the openers for all the cup guys and bush guys. And so I got to know some of those guys and hang out with them. And it was you know, it was pre 2000 and you know, I got out in 2002 it was still you can hang out and you had barbecue there would be like fluidised did a barbecue at California Speedway and all the drivers are hanging out a barbecue and eat you know, eat steaks and ribs and Bs all night. Dale Earnhardt Jr. Nice to hang out and talk about music and stuff. Because we're the only two people in the paddock area like the same music because they all listened to country and we're like, No, we don't like that stuff. And, and it was just a community around NASCAR was so tight then it was very much the old school with younger people involved in it too. And it was so welcoming to me, which was just I felt the part of the T part of the deal almost immediately.

Jeff Sterns  1:03:52  
That's wonderful.

Unknown Speaker  1:03:54  
Yeah, it was really neat. There was a great community. I sadly think that from the least the paddock area is pretty much gone these days, which is kind of sad. But it's a big, big, big, big, big business now. And it's different.

Jeff Sterns  1:04:08  
Yes. Now, speaking of NASCAR, and I'm so glad to hear Dale doesn't like country music. I mean, that helps.

Unknown Speaker  1:04:15  
Oh, he likes he likes Brooks and Dunn and stuff. But I mean, he doesn't like like, he's he he likes Metallica and stuff. I mean,

Jeff Sterns  1:04:22  
no, that helps. I mean, that's hurt me in being able to watch. I mean, I remember someone trading in a car on a country station. And I gave him 10,000 less on his appraisal and he says, What's the number and I said something's wrong with your car. What is it? Well, let's get this music playing that I'm sure you know, we could probably replace the stereo head. So I'm one of my guests and a good friend is a guy named Brett ram Kerr he he's a NASCAR IMSA WeatherTech Michelin video guy in So he's been all over the world videoing this stuff and he made a film at Adriene called my brain I lost my brain. What the hell? Hang on, gentlemen. audrain Oh my god, no ROM. The subtitle is the making of a Concorde. Oh, sorry. He made a film at audrain called the best in class, the making of a Concorde elegance about the audrain show. And so I mean, he's he filled me in on so many and he's one of our if you want to watch or listen to any of our Yeah, he did a show and he talks about it very, very, very like, well, you are in the race. So it's probably less mysterious to you. But very interesting to me and, and so I got to ask you a very, very serious question. Who would win? called trickle or Ricky Bobby?

Unknown Speaker  1:06:03  
Oh, cool trickle. That's hard. Oh, you know, both funny racing movies. In fact, I got a NASCAR fine because we kept on quoting Days of Thunder on the radio. And you know, there's so much nonsense. I'm gonna drop the hammer. No, you're not, you know, and, but we would talk on the radio during TV races and repeat the lines when we were just messing around. And NASCAR didn't like it. And we got fine. But no. If Ricky Bobby had a kilo of cocaine taped to the bottom of his car, he would win. But otherwise, I think Colts Rico would win. Well, it's interesting is that Tom? Tom Cruise actually raised some two with Paul with Pl. And so though. Ricky Bobby, the actor is actually a car guy too. So it's interesting. Will Ferrell. Yeah, Will's a car guy. He likes cars. He's he's got a problem with Sunbeam tigers. And he's tall so I don't know that he fits in a sunbeam tiger, but I think he might have just bought a sunbeam Tiger at Barrett Jackson a couple of weeks ago.

Jeff Sterns  1:07:16  
Definitely doesn't look like a sunbeam Tiger guy. No, he

Unknown Speaker  1:07:19  
hasn't. But he likes the Shelby v eight roadster thing going on. I think he's gonna be pleasantly I'm surprised that he doesn't fit in that car. But But no, I think that I think that culture will probably win.

Jeff Sterns  1:07:32  
Okay, Ricky, we'll go ahead. Do you know, George Walsh? Ah, George was the founder of St. Michael's concore. Okay. Okay, just curious. And I go back with George. When I was running the roles and Bentley store. He was General Manager of Rolls Royce, when, while he was an executive at BMW and then was employed.

Unknown Speaker  1:07:59  
I do know I met him. I don't know him. He wouldn't know me from Adam. But I've met him. Yes. I met him with Austin. Okay, who is NPR then?

Jeff Sterns  1:08:08  
George is a doll just a doll of a guy and he, he was employee number one with Rolls Royce. Interesting. And put all that together when BMW bought the company. And we talked about that. So okay, I was curious about that. You might want to look at that. audrain it's on Vimeo like a paper viewer or rent it I'm sorry. rent it best in class making of a Concorde elegance. I hope you like it, but it doesn't like quite start with dawn patrol, but it goes into the stories of really the cars bringing families together and people together and I think well done. I think well done. Gotcha. motorcycles. Yep. I think you have a little motorcycle background and I appreciate all the time you're giving me

Unknown Speaker  1:08:59  
Yeah, no worries. I love them. I'm a huge bike fan. I've had a sense I was. I've owned them myself since I was 19. Triumph's BMWs bshs had a brief SSAT prep superior SSAT. Good sees to cardies Norton's have had seven six Norton commandos, I am not buying another one. I've sworn off forever. Finally, I built the best one on the planet and it wouldn't start one day and I said I'm out. I'm out. This is a big one people everyone around me and they weren't community said that's the best restored commander we've ever seen. And it didn't start I'm like I'm done.

Jeff Sterns  1:09:48  
But that's how you know it was authentic. It was a proper restoration. Yes, it's yours. You're tall for motorcycles.

Unknown Speaker  1:09:56  
I have a you can tell by the bikes I own to what I what I how I'm When I right now I've got a BMW or 1200 Gs. I've got them Ducati multistrada 1100 s. I've got a 73 BMW 75 slash five and I've got a otoo Triumph Bonneville so they're all color bikes. And I've had stuff as wacky as Desmosedici Ducati and things like that, and I don't fit on those.

Jeff Sterns  1:10:29  
Well, I think when you turn your knee would drag on the ground at 10 degrees. Pretty much. Yeah, exactly. So at least you can make the move. Yep. So good. Yeah, I love them. I they're, they're just that, to me, they're like flying on. It's like, it always feels like flying a world war one fighter plane or something or were two fighter plane. It's like, I love that you gear up to ride and and that's just the sound is great. Everything I've got the probably the most subdued thing I own is the BMW Gs. But even it's got a acrophobic titanium system on it. So it sounds pretty decent. So I was it was March, I gotten back from Amelia. We went to shouter that week at shouter, they announced that New York with National Guard was shutting down part of New York because of COVID. And we went, holy crap. And when I got a friend of mine, I got him out of town, because we need to get out of town. And what we did was nothing. Hold on one second. Yes, go ahead.

Unknown Speaker  1:11:43  
That he can't make that work for 630. And we don't have anything right now. For tomorrow. We could call you that something opened up. The first one he said that he could do would be one o'clock on

Unknown Speaker  1:11:58  
May 20. Wow. That's too far. Yeah, that's that's so far out. My doctor conodont me I just got stuck in a meeting. My doctor wanted me in it like, like, no later than Wednesday. So.

Unknown Speaker  1:12:12  
Okay, yeah. He's he, he made a spot for you today. And yeah. So we can call you tomorrow. If we get a cancellation or if somebody calls tonight. I can give you a call

Unknown Speaker  1:12:24  
for tomorrow. That'd be great. I'd really appreciate that. Okay, because I can I can probably get there in 20 minutes, but it's gonna take me 20 minutes to get there. So,

Unknown Speaker  1:12:33  
yeah, now he needs the full amount of time. So, yeah. I'm going to tell you right now, Travis, for one o'clock. Okay, but we'll try and find something sooner. Thank

Unknown Speaker  1:12:52  
you so much. I really apologize. I did. I was I lost track of the time I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm still here it is okay. But, um, but I wanted to call you guys and let you know, I wasn't just blowing you off and see if we could change it to so because I didn't want to be the guy that didn't show up and didn't call so.

Jeff Sterns  1:13:05  
Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, bye. Oh, Andy,

Unknown Speaker  1:13:12  
no big deal. I'll do that. I've got muscle relaxants that are going to keep me going for the next couple days. I'm not in pain right now. Which is weird. Just my leg is numb, which is really strange. I've never had it being in pain. Yeah, I haven't either. It's a great thing. And

Jeff Sterns  1:13:25  
this is from that many.

Unknown Speaker  1:13:27  
It's from me jacking around with the seats in the beginning, the minis got Recaro isn't it? And I I'm six, four, right? So I'm giant. And so the recaros sits you with your legs up like this, right? Like your knees are higher than your butt. And so smart guy said, oh, wow, the front cushion extends. So I extend the front cushion and drive 320 miles with the cushion extended. And I think I wrecked my own back that way. I think I think me in that weird position with my butt underneath my knees for that long. did bad things is all I can guess. And I had to see the angle kooky. And I had to like I was racing the car, right. And so racing cars, like 30 minutes. It's not, you know, five and a half hours. And so and then I walked the show that first day when I got the Carlisle in driving shoes, which have no support whatsoever. So I'm like, Yeah, I did this all to myself. I gave myself this. So

Jeff Sterns  1:14:28  
I hope you clear that I I've heard it's bad for me.

Unknown Speaker  1:14:31  
Yeah, it was the most excruciating pain I've ever had. It was insane. It now it's calm and normal because my whole rights leg is numb. So I don't feel it. And I'm not sure why that is. It's the nerve doing its thing, but right now I'm okay with it. Keep it going.

Jeff Sterns  1:14:48  
Okay, so I think I think we're talking motorcycles. Yeah, we know we were isolated isolation, isolation.

Unknown Speaker  1:14:56  
Yeah. And so I was we were all at home. It was two weeks into it. Three weeks into it. And I knew that this wasn't going away. And if people go, Well, you know, we'll be going moderates and moderates canceled. I know it's canceled. I didn't say anything because I have so many friends who are stakeholders. I didn't want to be bad news. I'm like, this is not going to happen. So I'm like, yeah, there goes a year. I was talking to some friends of mine in the hobby. And I was like, yeah, this isn't gonna be a year. One of them's a doctor. He's like, yeah, Pebble Beach is a pipe dream. And I went, Okay. So I was looking at Facebook one day, and my friend boo Gwynn, who's the PCA chairman of the PCA, Executive Director of the PCA, I think, is his real title. And he put up this thing, in this little video, he put up golf, cars and coffee on the carpet. And it was little diecast cars. And he put them on his carpet. And he made a video and I said, this is really funny. And I have some I didn't have I had like, probably 10. So I put them all out. And I said, Hey, I got one touche. Like, that's so cool. And I was thinking about it. And this is like, I know what it is, is March 28 of last year. And thinking, huh? What if you had a concor for toy cars, judged by Concord judges, because the Concord judges like, name one of the big Concord to Paul Russell, Ken gross, you know, named you know, anybody, right? Bill Warner, they're not doing anything, just like me, because they're in the same boat as I am. So everybody's free. And so I called up, boo. And I said, so I'm gonna steal your ID and do something because what do you do? And I said, that you're not stealing it. It's your own idea. You just took it to the next level. I said, great. You cool that is? Yeah. Okay. So I called that call I called bill Warner. But he wasn't my first call. I called Michael firm and the photographer up I said, Hey, so if I made a diecast, car concor, weird, the judge on Facebook, on Facebook for model cars, would you do it? He said, will you be in charge? That sounds totally fine. So he said, Yes. Then I call Tommy Kendall, who's a pal. I said, Hey, so got this crazy idea. And since none of us are doing anything, would you touch this thing? Is it great? So he said yes. And then I call Paul Russell up from Paul Russell and company. And I said, so if I do, he goes, he said, Yes. And so I called the Warner up. And I said, Hey, Bill. So I've got this harebrained idea for this concore of toy cars. For concor. Do it online and people judge it and you know, people like you. It's like, that's a great idea. It's, that's a craziest idea ever heard. And it's a great idea. And Bill Schaeffler who founded Fairfield Concord company, same thing, because that's a crazy idea. And it's brilliant. And I went, Okay, I go, Well, I don't know what to call it. And I was thinking I can't Concord the carpet. He goes, Yeah, but that's, that's, that's, I get where you're going with that. But it's that, you know, but what did you call it something different? I said, Okay, so your brainstorming goes, how about isolation Island, Concord? And that was the name. I said, that's the perfect name. And so we launched it on April Fool's Day of 2000. Very appropriately. And we put it out there. We had no, I had one sponsors for my insurance agency, Haywood insurance. And the other sponsor I had was Martyrology, who does car think many different car things, video presentations, they do the back end with what we're using right now, the tools you're using right now, for people like Keith Martin's podcast, things like that. So he also does t shirts and hats and artwork and all that it's a wonder motorolla is a great site. They were other sponsors, because my friend Matt is a friend and a client. And he agreed to help. So he created my logos. We made little awards about this big for each car that were scaled to the size of the car that were custom made for each owner and each car. And so we launched this thing. We said, okay, what's going to happen? And I said, Hey, donate to a charitable organization affected by this situation that you will choose. I don't care who it is, but don't give a donation and give like five bucks or a buck whatever you can. If you can't afford anything, don't you don't have to give anybody you can give a buck to five bucks to a charity. And we put it out there on Facebook. And I messaged about 100 of my Facebook following friends saying this was their that's the that's the that's the extent of the marketing we did. And in the first round, we had 285 and friends.

Unknown Speaker  1:19:44  
And I went, huh. And so I made mckeel my Maciel Haggerty, my head judge he was good at the whole time was fantastic. And he gave me a lot of his time and his time is very valuable. And he was just terrific. We had a blast doing And Bill was my one of my board of advisors, Bill, Bill mckeel. And Bill Warner bill Schaeffler and mckeel are on my board of advisors, they're kind of people that helped me steer the thing, because they'd all run conco done things like this. And so they were very, very useful. And, and just terribly gave me a lot of time. So we did this thing, and we get what awards, we did it. The first time we did it, we just did the text on Facebook, because we did it on Facebook. That's basically what Facebook was the only place I played on the internet and in business before. And I knew that the only way to do this, after talking to a lot of friends rapidly was to do it on Facebook, if I wanted to execute immediately, and get it and be first out of the gate with something a month around this deal in our hobby space that we could all do. Facebook was the only solution that was a cost effective that I could actually do because I could just build it in page and figure it out. And so we did that. And we had all these entrants and they all won and people all cheered. We got all these followers, just like 3000 4000 followers on the things still. And then we did it again. And I reach I didn't respond. You know, no one was getting my insurance agents who was sponsoring the awards, and that was it. But we didn't have any we have the cost of mailing costs and all that stuff. And so I had like Tom Kaczynski from BMW, and Eric Keller from enthusiast Auto Group, which is like the greatest place to buy a BMW M car. He has the best ones on the planet. They are my BMW. As I said, Tom, is BMW want to sponsor this crazy thing? And he goes, Yeah, and I went great. And so that call Rob Moran, Mercedes, who was one of my judges. So Rob, does Mercedes want to sponsor this thing? They said, yeah. And I called Ray Shaffer. I said, Would Porsche want to sponsor isolation? And he goes, I think so. And so he hooked me up with the club can thing and they sponsored it to me. And I talked to Haggerty and they're like, Well, finally, after two rounds, you finally asked us and I said it just didn't occur to me that would go more than two rounds. A because we were doing like every two weeks, we did one round two weeks, another round. I was like, wow. And so we didn't we first learned it was was 60 hours a week of work. My friend Dirk, the Jaeger, who was my co founder, who I brought in to do my initial photography. And to help out with it, we kind of ran it together, I ran the head of it, but he filled in my gaps all over the place. And when we needed example, photography for class three, he shoot his Die Cast collection in his studio for the presentation because we didn't have any, because no one had done it. Right. So we didn't have any template photography to use for examples. And so he's a brilliant car shooter. And so he shot these amazing photographs of his collection that looked like real cars. So we did this thing, and we got sponsors. And so people kept on donating. And we started getting people that have one pebble multiple times as entrance. Many of them and people people know. So you get like the john Shirley's and people involved, right? Literally, I'm not just dropping names, they they are in it. Peter Gleason, who has a very exceptional collection of race cars. And BMW is primarily and Seattle. Another tremendously nice guy, and one of my gotta be great friends. But, you know, I think we had six Pebble Beach winners, Best of Show winners entering their toy cars in our Concorde and really going after it. And, but what it did is it gave these people something fun to do, and people made friends that have never met. And we made a $350 price cap on the cars. And so what I'm gonna do is that you couldn't just buy an amalgam amalgam model for $10,000. And when, because it wasn't legal, and we had a couple people try to enter stuff that wasn't legal. One of them is a very big collector, and I sent him packing and he never came back. I'm like, that's fine. I asked bill about it. I said, Well, he's a big deal his bills like you're the king it's your show what you say goes and I said, you know, that's very much thanks for doing but you know, we're not doing this and he probably I know I'm gonna run into this year and he's and I'm gonna get some seat heat from it, but I'm okay. He's not a client. But uh, so we did this thing and people we've been friends, they they entries got better and better. And you were looking to paid so you saw some of the quality of these entries, right? And they got really good really fast.

Unknown Speaker  1:24:27  
And what's great is, the pictures are great, and they're beautiful. But the stories these people told about these cars, and they're these toy cars, like you know, like this guy, there's a perfect example this is my favorite all time ever. diecast car and favorite LMP racecar ever. It's that V 12 LMP art car. It says protect me from what I want. Lack of charisma can be fatal. The unattainable is invariably attractive. You are so complex. You don't respond to danger. It's got loads of great stuff on it. I Love this card since since BMW did it, it's got all these funny sayings on it, protect me from what I want is the best one. And you know, that never worked for me. But so the stories of people why people love these thing things. It's often like my dad had a reliance seminar. And it was my I remember growing up on it, and this is the same color as his and this is the story of our time with this real car, and how I bought this car to connect with it. Or I watched the 1967 Sebring race. And this car one, and I recreated the scene of 1967 Sebring that I got to watch when I was three years old. And just these extraordinary editorial tales of passion and love for the hobby came across. And what's interesting is I was on a panel with Sam saundra button and a number of others from other concours about the impact of online concore. They said the one thing that was lacking from theirs was the community aspect. People didn't get to talk and share and get to be pals. Ours did, because we put the darn thing on Facebook comments happened. And people would have dialogues. And they get to know each other and they'd share other stories. And while I had this too, and here's my story. And like we made we put people together globally around the world who had never met, who are now fast friends. So we had that walking around pebble and meeting people experience. Virtually nobody else pulled it off because they all build websites. And we only use Facebook because it was the only solution. It was we didn't want to I mean, I know what what good web design is. That was not good web design.

Jeff Sterns  1:26:41  
It was quick and cheap.

Unknown Speaker  1:26:42  
You betcha. And we had it we had a budget of my credit card, right. So it was coming into my pocket. But we also raised over 100 grand for charities, which blew my mind.

Jeff Sterns  1:26:56  
That's fabulous.

Unknown Speaker  1:26:57  
Yeah, it was just and again, we we've tried. Our whole idea is none of my friends in any part of the hobby. Were having any fun in March, April, May, June, July, August, because we weren't going anyplace. And I just wanted to make fun for everybody. And people had fun. I mean, when I went back to the sixth and seventh round to Ralph's deals from Mopar, who is the head of Mopar. He's not even the head of design. He's like the Big Cheese now. And he'd still show up the judge with enthusiasm. That's huge. Where Bobby Ray Hall who was a judge or David Hobbs, who was a judge or bill Warner, who is starting to prepare for his own 2021 concor they always gave us the time. And it was just because they saw what we did. I think we got nominated for an octane award. Last year octane magazine does an award for and we didn't win it. But we got just getting nominated. We made the shortlist with pebble beaches virtual concor with the with the one that they did a Peterson with a Peters we were in the same league with Peterson virtual Concord. So I felt like we did pretty well by just showing up and being mentioned.

Jeff Sterns  1:28:07  
So something that nobody knows about you something they'd be surprised to know about.

Unknown Speaker  1:28:17  
Okay, so my dad when I was a kid had a very different job.

Jeff Sterns  1:28:26  
And how old are you? 55 Okay, so

Unknown Speaker  1:28:29  
you probably experienced this. So my dad had a carnival in Michigan. So I was raised a carnival kid. I was a carny. You're a carny? Yeah, even though I never worked on a carnival, or anything, except I did have one job in the carnival. I had to sell balloons one year and it was like the worst. It's marks to this day. The worst job I've ever had. dressed as a clown is my mom's idea. Terrible. And I was like six. I'm like, Who does that to a six year old? In a clown outfit with a nose. And so, but no, I was raised on I mean, I think as I was we had a toy. I was about 11. And I got to really see what that visit. It was interesting. Interesting. You see all kinds of people when you're paid parents on a carnival.

Jeff Sterns  1:29:18  
Did your dad travel the the country setting it up or just regionals? Again?

Unknown Speaker  1:29:23  
Georgia sometimes for the Georgia State Fair, Florida for a couple gigs. But all over Michigan, Michigan, Detroit State Fair from 1967 till 1975. So you went? Yep. Yep. You remember the old cash register they had out there the big old iron cash register? rounds? Yeah, they had the they had the little gondola rides rode around. Yeah.

Jeff Sterns  1:29:49  
The sky ride. Yep.

Unknown Speaker  1:29:52  
Yeah, so that was our fare for years. It's a fair. But yeah. And I don't know. I just I thought I don't talk about it. Just like no one ever It never comes up right so it's a weird thing.

Jeff Sterns  1:30:03  
I got a scoop finally. Yeah, Jeff Sterns connected through car show on Andy Reid. He grew up in a carnival family.

Unknown Speaker  1:30:10  
Yeah. And I learned how to I knew how the games are rigged. I knew how to beat the rig the games I, you know, I knew all kinds, I needed to learn all kinds of information you're just never going to use anywhere else ever.

Jeff Sterns  1:30:20  
We should have another show about why you can't get the ring on the coke bottle and why he can't you know, whatever.

Unknown Speaker  1:30:28  
Not because it's rate. It's dumb luck. Everything's done. Really. Everything's done. Everything's positioned exactly where it's positioned to be positioned that way. So it's hard to do.

Jeff Sterns  1:30:39  
So. That's beautiful. And what would you like us to know about you? Hmm, what do you wish people knew about you?

Unknown Speaker  1:30:48  
I have a huge music problem. I I often wish I would have been a music producer. Because I I have friends that like music, but I have one friend My friend Justin habit who my friend Trent avid works for Haggerty, his brother Justin is a car collector and he's the only person I know and my friend john Lucas is into music and loves music. But uh i Justin is the kind of he's the only friend of mine in the hot car hobby this this way, but he and my friend Nick Smith, who used to work for bottoms now runs a company called classic Avenue shout out to classic Avenue Hey Nick. But he started my bond as motorcycle auctions but he's a British expat but he was a record producer to so this is this is why we're the three guys we know over the car hobby that if the right songs on the radio, even if we're late to where we're going in the car. You wait to the songs down you don't turn it off. It's a it's a crime against nature and and sometimes music you can listen to and talk through it but more times than not shut up music's on. So if we're in the car and conversing the radio doesn't go on. Otherwise, we won't do it. I love music. The only thing I get started I worked in Hollywood for six, seven years. I never got starry eyed over Hollywood. I I guess it was my work. But I still get goofball we and I get to go to I get some really good access to events and things just because of other people and friends in the car hobby. I still get goofy of rock stars. I mean, I'm like, wow, you're my hero. I went to see the About two years ago before COVID and got backstage and the whole thing through my friend Shane Zeller, and who's their bass player? And I was like, Oh my god, this is the coolest thing. You're one of my favorite bands on the planet. Like I'm like, I'm like a 10 year old. I'm like a 13 year old girl in 1987. I swear to god going.

Jeff Sterns  1:32:43  
And it just you never crossed the line to groupie though.

Unknown Speaker  1:32:46  
No, no, not at all. But I mean, I just I just music just does something else. To me. It takes me someplace else.

Jeff Sterns  1:32:52  
Tell me a song. That when you're in the car and you're late and it's a crime against nature, crime against humanity, if you leave the car before the songs over what song defines that for you?

Unknown Speaker  1:33:04  
Oh my god, there's lots. There's one by there's one by the Smiths called How soon is now if I was doing this now, but this is on the radio, it cannot be turned off. And and my wife goes crazy. I'm like, No, you know, it will be going to the supermarket out here. It'll be halfway through so stop it No. And I'll sit in the car she'll be unloading groceries mad at me because I'm listening to the rest of the song which I have in like three different formats at home vinyl and CD and everything else. And another one is my one of my all time favorite bands love and rockets which is a offshoot of Bauhaus, which is the original goth band. Daniel asked David J and Kevin Haskins band have this song called the seven three Mateen Hmm, which is the title track to their title, their first album and ADA, which I saw on tour in ADA. There's something about that song. It's like the spookiest, scariest, most extraordinary piece of music I've ever heard. And it doesn't go off and you don't talk. Like I will Nick and I were in a car and somebody was with us. And they came on and and I said someone like this and they said well it turned around and just made just shut up. Because he gets it too. And but it's just the music music takes me someplace else. It evokes feelings more than normal people. And it's weird. I don't know why it my parents could care less they like show tunes. And my mom is horribly addicted to Neil Diamond, which I just cannot which I find on listenable and

Jeff Sterns  1:34:36  
but you're but the seven dream. You're saying if it comes on the radio? Yeah. Is this what station What? This isn't when x and Oh god. Okay, okay.

Unknown Speaker  1:34:52  
At first wave. Sometimes it's an alternative nation. It's often on first wave does dark wave on Sunday night. With all this more gothy deeper sketchier stuff third music is walking at first I'm walking on the moon by the police. There is something just I have a memory of when I first heard that song what I was doing who I was with, and it brings me back there immediately. Every smell sight feeling is there, and it's just perfect. And I also played bass. So all those games have in the music ponent too and but you know that it's just like I love music. I love music like a musician loves music. I think my A friend of mine said a couple of my friends of mine are professional bass players and like Oh, you got it. You know, you're like, you're like that dorky guy. You're like you're like us but you just aren't a professional. I said I musics if I could swap careers give up cars and work in the music industry. We've completely Okay, got it. So never mess with this stuff ever again.

Jeff Sterns  1:35:58  
My taste is different but I'm writing I'm writing down your tastes gonna listen to me. But to me like if American woman comes on Okay, yeah, it's a great song You don't you don't turn the Guardian radio off right? I guess one that you right or wrong?

Unknown Speaker  1:36:13  
Kashmir by Led Zeppelin. You cannot turn it off. It's illegal. It's like 11 minutes long. So get ready to wait.

Jeff Sterns  1:36:19  
Ray radar love.

Unknown Speaker  1:36:21  
Radar love. Yep. Um, Led Zeppelin's rain song live from song remains the same is just brilliant. And that studio tracks sucks. But the reign of the live track on song remains the same is so good. And Jimmy Page was never better in any other song ever. But yeah, those are those are those are for both and you don't turn them off the radio. A LOT OF BOWIE, like so much Bowie heroes fame. I heroes especially that's another song that is like, of my like my sacred songs that I just love.

Jeff Sterns  1:37:01  
So it's Andy Reid and music. Who knew I love it

Unknown Speaker  1:37:04  
again, I junk all these books and they give them to some museum and I'd work in the music industry like this, though. I don't know if I want to do it now because it's very different. But I think I could have been behind a soundboard and done some good stuff. I've played with a little bit with friends who are musicians and I've got the knack for it. What is that? Who is that to?

Jeff Sterns  1:37:25  
My dad. So your dad worked in the business. He was with capital. And he actually got the job. My uncle was in West Bloomfield worked for deca and capital and he applied with capital and capital called the house and my dad answered in Oak Park. And said like his brother's not there, but he'll take like something like he took my uncle's job his brother's job when they're trying to recruit on capital. Now my dad so he gets this beat The beat No, this album called meet the Beatles that it Yeah, we all know what album that is. Yeah, job promoting, although he said that they weren't the greatest when he was listening to the auditions and stuff. He they weren't his favorite. But he ended up going in the car business when my mom was pregnant with me because somebody pulled up in a new or almost new Eldorado convertible and my dad said, How did you buy that? And he said, I opened a car a lot. So he opened a car a lot, dropped everything and open a car a lot on Livermore and then later and Royal Oak. You have been a doll Andy Reed making all this time we've been together. I mean, time flew for me. I hope you enjoyed yourself. It was really fun. Thanks. I haven't done this in a while. So this is great. Well, you haven't done this ever. This has been Jeff Sterns connected through cars.

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